I had a problem with occassional leaks from everywhere when running long and hard at 5000+ on my 413. The following errors occurred with your submission, CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion, V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette, Electric Pump Crankcase Evacuation System, In loving memory of lost CorvetteForum Brothers and Sisters. I don't really hear it inside the car, but i have an exhaust hose run from the pump to the outside of the car. JavaScript is disabled. Crafted from 6061-T6 aluminum alloy, they have successfully endured rigorous individual pressure testing, proving that they are built to last. To Purchase any of these products please go to Related Products below. Fasteners included. Electric Vacuum Pumps For Crankcase Pressure, What's Out There Over 5". properly sealing piston rings should not be allowing much in the way of blowby gasses anyways.. Actually Bill, For the second time in about 5 years, I have to disagree with you. Would probably be better at 6" HG. A mechanical system, on the other hand, would and I don't think that its positives (30 in) would outweigh the parasitic loss for our engines. About Us - They are smart! I think those pumps rely on a fluid to create a sealed chamber in order to move fluid. Terms of Service - Does anyone know if a system of this type would actually have any benefit on a 3sgte? the amount of pressure in the crankcase created by pistons moving downward, especially in a 4 cylinder is incredibly negligable. Here's what a couple of people have mentioned, but I have no info on it: When I upgraded to this temporary mid-level engine (or it's immediate predecessor) I was worried the much larger cam would deprive my terrible brakes of even more boost, so I replaced the gas evap cannister, long since disconnected by a previous owner, with a vacuum reservoir of about the same dimension and bought one of the $250ish vacuum pumps from SSBC to run to it - which I mounted in the nose cone. This system is electronic so it won't have any horsepower penalty. Has anyone used one of these? Content on mr2oc.com is generated by its users. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Don't know the exact rpm though. ENTER YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS FOR NEW PRODUCT RELEASE ALERTS AND COMPANY NEWS. 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Or waste of time? Basically I made a catch can out of an old Honda AC dryer and some extra fuel pump hoses/fittings and wanted to add a pull to the can. I agree to receive emails from the site. So the pressure of the churning air moved by the spinning parts plus the blowby would need to be less than what the evap pump can draw. It pulled 4 inches and was good for 5 hp. I'm guessing I would use a pump similar to GM PN 12568241 with a small collection tank between the line coming from the valve covers and the line to the pump. Just my opinion. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Check the vacuum with a gauge and limit it to about 10 in Hg. It dumps it into the intake and does all kinds of bad things. Very interesting. How noisy is the pump? cons: expensive, heavy, and takes up a huge amount of room. A pump is a pump. Advertising - For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. the amount of pressure in the crankcase created by pistons moving downward, especially in a 4 cylinder is incredibly negligable. Just a low volume weak pump that sucks amps from the battery. Once again, a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Will this work on any motor setup? As long as there is an unrestricted path to atmosphere, there will never any positive crankcase pressure. Shop products from small business brands sold in Amazons store. Please don't take any of these responses personally. If it's for racing, I agree with the above-if it's for the Street, there are many reports of guys running different types of electric Pumps (Mustang Cobra, VW, Audi, etc.) The incredible ability to withstand the harsh elements of racing makes these them the perfect solution for street rod and racing applications. When the nitrous comes on, the pump gets full voltage. JavaScript is disabled. 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JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Nice job on the motor. Thought about doing it and wanted to ask who's using one and how well is it working? I tried one of these pumps on the dyno. Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? This is something that I've been in process with for a while now, but am drawing near to the end. Oh, if you are running on alcohol running the pump all the time will help keep the oil dry and make it last a lot longer, according to our own Don Wang. A forum community dedicated to drag racing drivers and enthusiasts. 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At lower rpms fresh air could be circulating through the engine and still be drawn out by the pump. Mostly daily duty. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. A forum community dedicated to Toyota MR2 owners and enthusiasts. Mine should be able to pull 10 or more inches at redline if it works right. Is this for a Race Car or a Street Car? And rings not exactly brand new if you know what I mean. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. 4.3 blazer or 3800buick etc. The Stock PCV valve evacuates the oil vapor to an acceptable measure for emmissions. Shamelessly stolen from the Corvette Forum guys. Cost should be in the $50-75 range and work equally as well. I've resolved that I do need it as well. I'm working on something now that'll take 10 min to install and will have zero HP penalty. sorry should have explained further.have no PVC system at this time and carb has no vaccume. Battery Box, Charger, On-Off Main Power Switches & Acc. Pumps-I am going to have to run one (on my street car), and am also deciding whether to buy a CVR or run the Mustang Pump-(F6ZE-9A486-DC). I'm curious what your idea is as you alway seem to have very good ones. On a stock engine, this isn't an issue at all, but if your already running against the limit, it might just be the factor that sends you off into holy pistons. My GM buddies seem to not want to talk about it, so thought I'd ask here! Hidden wonder? :thumbup. Not only is that a neat approach for improving your car, it shows a great deal of initiative for someone to solve an issue by thinking how to do it better! It spins pretty fast. You are using an out of date browser. I run an electric pump mounted inside the car, behind the dash. http://www.ebay.com/itm/331126793709?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649, http://www.dcm-mfg.com/pdf/dcmotors/dc_motors.pdf. 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Who's using that LS brake booster pump to suck on the back of those rings? I can handle an electric setup in my garage and know that the vaccume pressure will be consistent as opposed to the trial and error associated with the pan evac method. I'm having a hard time finding out this info. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262401, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The main question is which electric pump to use based on how many inches Hg it will pull. properly sealing piston rings should not be allowing much in the way of blowby gasses anyways maybe, just maybe on a big inefficient V8 you could see something in the way of gains.. whiiiiiich would then be offset by the electrical power the system uses. There are bigger electric ones, but they aren't on brake boosters. So you used a gm smog pump but with another motor? Second, all that oil vapor reduces the effective octane of your intake charge. I run mine thru a voltage dropping resistor during normal street driving, it's quieter and easier on the pump. Engine is 469BB with approx 630 hp. I would just stick with an engine driven pump of course others may feel differently. If not the block would still be pressurizing as the pump is overwhelmed. I'm not going to get into a debate with those who think an electric crankcase evacuation system is not or should not be needed b/c I have my own reasons for wanting one: To minimize any oil leaks.and they work but instead of running it off a hobbs switch I wanted it to run all the time. First, it contaminates the intercooler and makes the transfer of heat less effective. I don't want to run a belt driven pump, to keep things simple. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I don't think an electric pump will pull any vacuum if its not pumping a liquid. Perfect for street performance junkies, racers, and machining enthusiasts trying to save weight while still giving your engine the edge. Those pumps help pump the oil vapors they dont actually pull enough volume to create vacuum but enough to prevent crankcase presurization while on boost. Cut tap screw or cut welt.. good luck ;-) I really don?t know but I figured I?d say something funny which may in fact be the only way to go. To Electric Pump Crankcase Evacuation System. These ford thermactor pumps will pull 4 inches and work fine on the street, they pull more than most collector tube set ups. Twilight Garage Aluminum Catch Tank Can Air/Oil Separator Kit for CHEVY/GM Truck 1999-2017, airmaxxx Parallel 4 Link Kit & Panhard Bar w/LH and RH Adjustable Bars. Only breathers on the valve covers. That is probably enough to stop leaks. DON'T FUCKING START IT! hose. SWEET!! A 2002 T/A pump that I tested pulled 3" HG. that oil will wreck the motor quick. If you had one vented valve cover, the extra pressure overwhelming the pump could still escape. Nice job! You must log in or register to reply here. mr2oc.com is not in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, mr2oc.com is an independent Toyota enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. but you better run and oil trap like the one in the pic. Read our Privacy Policy for more info. JavaScript is disabled. Cost should be in the $50-75 range and work equally as well. I'll be doing basically the same approach. Does anyone have a good idea what kind of pressure is built up inside an engine that has a decent ring seal? One that is made for pumping air can be driven by the engine or a little electric motor. Does anyone happen to know if there is a Earl's piece that will fit in place of the PCV valve? The little motor may be fine at idle, but it can't move the volume needed when laying down a pass. But then what does it do with it? After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. I found this Earl's piece but with the design of the gen 3 head, it won't fit. There has been lots of discussion on vacuum pumps over on speedtalk.com where several top engine builders hang out, and the very short version is that with standard rings you usually don't see any more hp but with skinny low tension rings it can be 50+ hp on a 700 hp small block chevy. If the rubber grommet was removed, could the opening be threaded so that something like the below could be screwed in place? Privacy Statement - Youre seeing this ad based on the products relevance to your search query. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 1) If you don't want the crankcase vapors to be routed through the IC, then simply vent to atmosphere, as all cars did until about the mid-60s. Thicker rails and better materials assure long lasting durability. I am just looking for parts that someone has used, including electric pump, as I don't want to weld into the exhaust collector. What a joke! 6k rpm and under. I can unsubscribe anytime to withdraw my consent. Outside the car, there is a detectable "vacuum cleaner" noise when the pump is on. none of your argument says you should spend a bunch of money on a pump. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Cookie Policy - Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, turbos, maintenance, and more! Definitely helps with weeping oil leaks. I'm not familiar with the threading process. Less than 10 in Hg makes less power if you have skinny low tension rings, more vacuum doesn't make more power and some have run into lubrication issues on wrist pins running over 15 in Hg vacuum. Come join the discussion about racing, builds, pro mods, hot rods, events, turbos, nitrous, superchargers, and more! Discover more about the small businesses partnering with Amazon and Amazons commitment to empowering them. Contact Us - Battery Cables. ^ then install a catch can. I'm working on something now that'll take 10 min to install and will have zero HP penalty. Very small 8.2 deck height 302 cid. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. This product contains a chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer, birth defects, or reproductive harm.

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