---Samuel L. Jackson in "Deep Blue Sea"<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, >>I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attackand none of>>the heads I've used have ever given it to me.>>. So keep this in mind when youre thinking of these heads and reading everything we cover below. But the construction is the same when it comes to thickness and ply count, and the sound differences between a G1 and G2 (or between a Classic Clear and Response 2) are very similar to the differences between an Ambassador and an Emperor. amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; If youre not beating the hell out of your drums, then I really wouldnt worry about which head is more durable. Heres Dave Weckl playing Remo Ambassadors: And heres Tommy Aldridge going to town on a kit using Remo Emperor heads: Okay, so weve covered a huuuge range of variables attack, responsiveness, overtones, sustain, durability, ply, thickness It can be hard to put them all into perspective to find the best drumhead for your kit. >I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attack >I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attackand none of, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Hi Todd ! So if youre looking to reduce your overtones or lessen your sustain, the Remo Emperor is the better choice. Its determined by how thick the head is, which becomes pretty clear when you think about it: A thicker film of plastic can take more of a beating compared to a thin film. Remo Ambassador drumheads are made with a single ply (a single layer) of Mylar, and this ply is 10mil thick. amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; If you want to get as much sustain as possible from a Remo Emperor drumhead, get the clear version (so the coating doesnt take the edge off your sustain). I don't need the durability of a 2-ply head ifthat's of any import. --Glenn DowdyBuy your percussion needs from Steve Weiss - not A-V Music215-659-0100. "Trane, Jaco, Jimi and Bird are GODS!Donate your organs. amzn_assoc_linkid = "7a92f7fc8fe5b3f54573aac6de26d871"; As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. amzn_assoc_linkid = "7a92f7fc8fe5b3f54573aac6de26d871"; Overall both the Ambassador and Emperor are extremely well-made professional-grade drumheads, and they can both handle a lot of drumming. amzn_assoc_region = "US"; This allows for more sustain, and also more overtones. In the past I've used Evans> > Hydraulics (this ws back when I was trying to become Neil Peart in the> > early 80's) which were horrible. Similarly, a single layer (ply) of plastic can activate more easily compared to two layers. Heres just a few examples: The Remo Emperor also comes in a lot of different colored clear versions (called Remo Emperor Colortone). Really thin heads dont have the weight behind them to vibrate hard for a long time, and really thick heads take a lot more force (i.e. This is because one sheet of plastic (a single ply) can freely vibrate after you hit it. So if you prefer Evans or Aquarian, you can easily apply everything we say about the Ambassador and Emperor to the Evans and Aquarian equivalent. drumheads with built-in control rings). If you want a slightly deeper drum tone without too much harsher high-pitch frequencies, then the Remo Emperor is a good choice compared to the Ambassador. Its super important to remember these differences in ply and thickness, because this is what determines how your drums will actually sound when you choose either the Remo Ambassador or Emperor. Hit the Emperor hard, and it will give a louder sound compared to the Remo Ambassador. The single ply of Mylar used for the Remo Ambassador can freely vibrate when you hit the drumhead, and its thickness (10mil) is a good sweet-spot for being thick enough to vibrate well, but not so thick that it chokes itself or takes too much force to activate. Currently, I haveYamaha clear single ply batter heads (coated ambassadors on theresonant side). amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "drumheadautho-20"; Thinking deeper about the names can help you remember which is which, if you struggle with this. That is a definite problem! So how does attack compare when looking at the Remo Ambassador vs Emperor? But a thicker head will always sound a little warmer and deeper, when compared to a thinner head tuned to the exact same tension. The difference is not huge, but if you need a drumhead that can cut through in loud environments (for example with hard rock, punk, or metal), then the Emperor will help get you there (especially the clear version). The Remo Emperor is in the sweet spot where its thick enough for a good strong attack, but not too thick. Heres a few examples (click on any to read a full review): Want to see how all Aquarian, Evans & Remo drumheads compare? While they both use the same type of Mylar plastic, the sound of these drumheads changes quite a lot based on how the Mylar is actually used. The original heads were coated> ambassadorswhich weren't to my liking either. You definately do NOT want two ply or muffled heads on the bottom, asthey will seriously kill projection and body.---------------------------------------------------------------Dan Radindir@aol.comMason Gross School of the Arts, Rutgers University, >I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attackand none of>the heads I've used have ever given it to me.>, >I don't need the durability of a 2-ply head if>that's of any import.>. 4 years old? For beginner drummers, overtones can often cause drums to sound strange (with a weird and unpleasant ringing). In comparison, Remo Emperor heads are made with two plies, and each ply is 7mil thick (giving a total thickness of 14 mil). While this will obviously affect the tone you get from your drums, it also affects how easily your drums can cut through and be heard (especially in louder environments). Based on how the thickness and ply can affect responsiveness, hopefully its pretty clear that the Remo Ambassador is more responsive compared to the Remo Emperor. The Ambassadors responsiveness will also mean youll get a fuller tone even when playing softer (since it takes less force to fully activate the drumhead). This sound ranges from bright (or high-pitch) to warm (or dark / low-pitch). Sure, there can be slight differences in sound between these brands. Its important to also mention that if a head is too thin or too thick, it wont ring out as much. Think of the job descriptions behind the drumhead names: An Ambassador is a pretty honorable position. Throughout the rest of this review, well be referring back to the differences in thickness and ply count. When hit hard, the Emperor can cut through louder. These drumheads sound very similar to the regular clear Emperor heads. Its important to mention that your overall sound comes from more than just a drumheads thickness (and youre probably noticing this as you read through this guide). First up, lets cover some important definitions here: Think about the drum sound you want: Do you picture boomy toms that have a long tone that rings out? amzn_assoc_asins = "B0006ZXF5G,B003AYLITA,B0011FUI64,B003AYHZ7Y,B01BE7E6CU"; amzn_assoc_design = "in_content"; So you might be wondering what the hell do the words Ambassador and Emperor actually have to do with drums in the first place? So is the Remo Ambassador or Remo Emperor more durable? However, the Remo Ambassador and Emperor dont really suffer these issues (theyre not super thin, nor super thick). Keep up to date on social media, and spread the word by liking and sharing. This means that if youre playing quieter music, or if you use a lot of light ghost notes in your drumming, the Remo Ambassador is the best choice compared to the Emperor. Theyre both excellent drumheads, and they both have a good amount of versatility, but its important to know the difference. Like this site? amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; Dont worry if youre not sure of any of the variables listed above, because well dive deep into this as we compare these drumheads. Check out our full guide to drum dampening to become an instant expert on this! amzn_assoc_linkid = "7a92f7fc8fe5b3f54573aac6de26d871"; amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; As well as thinking about your tom sound, the same questions can be applied to your snare, or your bass drum. As weve covered above, this is because the two plies choke each other slightly when they vibrate against each other (after the drum is hit). When comparing the Remo Ambassador vs the Remo Emperor, its mainly the ply count which matters most for sustain and overtones. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; I'vegot CS's on the bottom, and the combination on my traditional sized Rogerstoms is damn close to my "dream" sound. amzn_assoc_region = "US"; Not sure what something means here? *****************************************My only pleasure is to hear you cry.I love to see you cry.I love to see you die.I'll be the first to watch your funeral.And I'll be the last to leave.-Mercyful Fate, Rich '99 SL1*****************************************, >>I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attackand none of>>the heads I've used have ever given it to me.>, >Strat turned me onto Aquarian Response 2's for my toms. amzn_assoc_region = "US"; Thats a very loose and general rule though; you can definitely use Ambassadors for those music styles if you prefer the sound (theres never any best drumhead, since it all comes down to your own personal taste). amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; Header photo: Dan Aponte. However, FINDING them is the hardpart :)Dan-->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dan Rader ICQ# 3307189"The raw destuction of Nature can't hold a candle to man." Heres how Evans and Aquarian stack up against the Remo Ambassador and Emperor: Theyre basically the same type of heads, just made by different companies. In the past I've used EvansHydraulics (this ws back when I was trying to become Neil Peart in theearly 80's) which were horrible. So keep in mind that the Remo Ambassador is 10mil thick and single ply, while the Remo Emperor is 14mil thick and made with two plies. amzn_assoc_design = "in_content"; amzn_assoc_asins = "B000XLX74M,B000XXSONY"; :-). If you want an Ambassador to ring out a little less, the coated version can help a little. Through this NG, I'vealso been told that Evans Genera G2's with Genera Resonants on thebottom would do nicely. amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "drumheadautho-20"; amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; The Emperor is the real big-shot Heavy, thick, and really strong. Lets focus specifically on overtones for a moment: The Remo Ambassador can give you more overtones compared to the Emperor. Depending on the design, some heads will always have a brighter overall sound, while other can have a deeper and warmer overall sound. amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; Sure, they're a buckor two more than Pinstripes, but they KILL, especially when tuned low. One is a thinner single-ply head, while the other is a two-ply thicker head with a very different sound. If you dont want to buy via those links, thats fine too: Go support your local independent music store if they deserve it! amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; If each tension rod is tuned differently, youll get a lot of strange overtones. amzn_assoc_search_bar = "true"; The key difference between Ambassador vs Emperor drumheads is how theyre built. amzn_assoc_region = "US"; Although if a head is too thick, the attack can drop off. amzn_assoc_title = " "; amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "drumheadautho-20"; Theres also a lot of research and work happening behind the scenes. amzn_assoc_asins = "B079Y9GM8N,B00MBE14Y4,B0011FUI64,B0002GFPNE"; amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; amzn_assoc_region = "US"; Before we get into the details, you should know that this article will be super helpful even if you dont play Remo drumheads. > > A jazz drummer around here that I know (he's probably about 45-50) has an> >> old Ludwig kit that is about 30-40 years old (I think) and he still has> >> the ORIGINAL (ludwig made) skins on his toms! However, read the next section about clear and coated drumheads, because theres more to brightness and warmth than just head thickness. Theres pink, purple, orange, yellow, red, green, blue, and smoke colors available. However, both the Ambassador and Emperor are free from any built-in dampening (so the ply count has the biggest influence here). Durability is a measurement of how much use and abuse a drumhead can handle. Youve got some weight, experience, and power. amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; The Ambassador is definitely not a super-thin drumhead, and it can handle a bit of hard playing. :-). Save a life. Tip: If youre interested in the different color drumheads available, check out our comparison of the different options we compare Evans Hydraulic and all of the Remo Colortone varieties. So for punk, hard rock, metal, and similar types of music, consider buying Remo Emperors instead of Ambassadors. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; Lets take a look at the Emperor first. This vibration is what produces your drum sound, the sustain, and the overtones! This is because the thinner material takes less energy to activate and vibrate (which creates your drum sound). They're just dead--no attack to speak ofand it> > doesn't help that they're about 4+ years old!>> 4 years old? Compared to the Ambassador, the Remo Emperor gives less sustain and overtones. In the past I've used Evans> Hydraulics (this ws back when I was trying to become Neil Peart in the> early 80's) which were horrible. I've>got CS's on the bottom, and the combination on my traditional sized Rogers>toms is damn close to my "dream" sound. Could a kind soul with experience with both heads lend some insight?FWIW, the style ofmusic I play is a mix of rock (nothing to heavy), classic rock, andtiny amount of jazz. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "drumheadautho-20"; Currently, I have> > Yamaha clear single ply batter heads (coated ambassadors on the> > resonant side). If theres a fairly even amount of both high and low-pitch tones, the heads sound is considered balanced. His snare has a Remo> >> Ambassador Weatherking.. only the second one ever about 10+ years old.> >> Crazy fucker!>, > My Ludwig set is almost 20, and I still use the original resonant luds on all> the toms. amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; amzn_assoc_title = " "; One final (and important) point to cover is that both the Remo Ambassador and Emperor come in clear and coated versions. Weve broken down everything on this page, to make sure you buy the best drumheads for your sound and style. Compared to all other heads out there, its still within balanced territory though: The Emperor is has a balanced-warm sound, but there are definitely much warmer heads available (like these ones). The attack of a drumhead is the big crack, snap, or thud you hear when the head is first hit. amzn_assoc_asins = "B0002E2OSU,B0002E38WQ"; Its the big sound that comes right when the stick (or your bass drum beater) makes contact with the head, before you hear the ringing of the sustain and overtones. They're just dead--no attack to speak ofand itdoesn't help that they're about 4+ years old! :-)>. Okay, heres a quick overview of the differences between Remo Ambassador vs Remo Emperor. The difference in thickness and ply count is what makes these heads sound and behave differently when theyre compared to one another. They are still in excellent condition, but I do constantly change> the batters to experiment (on pinstripes right now). He tried ambassadors and that's pretty much what G1's are. Or would you prefer a shorter thud? > A jazz drummer around here that I know (he's probably about 45-50) has an> old Ludwig kit that is about 30-40 years old (I think) and he still has> the ORIGINAL (ludwig made) skins on his toms! Go with them top and bottom, or ambassadors on thebottom. The Drumhead Selector. Tip: Theres more to tuning than just the tightness of each rod! amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; Price-wise, Colortone heads cost around the same as the standard versions take a look at the latest Colortone prices and styles here. Check out his other awesome work. If youre an emperor, youre at the top of the food chain. However, read the next section about clear and coated drumheads, because theres more to brightness and warmth than just head thickness. > After way too many years of bad head choices for my Slingerland Spirit> series kit.it's time for new heads.>> I've never been happy with the tom sounds I've gotten, no matter how> meticulously I work with the tuning. Dont get caught out with the wrong heads! First though, lets take a quick look at the Emperors sound. If you buy your gear through the links, a small percentage comes to Drumhead Authority, and it wont cost you any extra. Luckily, weve done all of the hard work for you, with our free drumhead selector: Key in the exact level of attack, sustain, overtones, responsiveness, durability, dampening, and more, to see the exact drumheads that fit your needs. Tip: Its important to mention that there are a lot of things you can use to reduce sustain and/or overtones, and there are also a lot of heads with built-in dampening to control these. amzn_assoc_asins = "B01BE7E6CU,B0064RFEUY"; Thinner and single-ply drumheads are always more responsive than thicker and two-ply heads. If a loud attack in your drum sound is important, youd want to consider buying the Remo Emperor rather than the Ambassador. Does the drumhead pick up every tiny ghost note, or does it sound choked or dull when you gently tap it? Check it out, and then well get into exactly what each difference actually means for your drum sound. His snare has a Remo> Ambassador Weatherking.. only the second one ever about 10+ years old.> Crazy fucker! If you dont care about low-volume drumming or ghost notes, then you can safely choose either the Ambassador or Emperor. If you were considering a Remo Ambassador drumhead until we said it was brighter sounding, then get the coated version to make your sound a little warmer. Two-ply heads generally give less sustain and overtones when compared to a one-ply head. Thicker drumheads (especially clear ones) can create a bigger attack when hit hard. amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; I will share my opion about the head problem you talk about.just, Yah.. the problem this guy has is that they are the original batter heads :). The webs bestdrumhead comparison tool: find the best drumheads for you. amzn_assoc_linkid = "7a92f7fc8fe5b3f54573aac6de26d871"; The solution here is tuning: When youre using the drum key to turn each tuning rod, ensure each rod has the same tension (or tightness) compared to all of the others on that drum. If youre beating the hell out of your drums, then durability is an important thing to consider. Need Some New Drumming Ideas or Inspiration? Tip: If you want to see a full list of equivalent heads between Aquarian, Evans and Remo, see our full drumhead comparison chart here. I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attackand none ofthe heads I've used have ever given it to me. Attack is important, because it can help your drums either blend into the overall sound (this is important when youre playing in a band or in the studio), or allow your drums to really stand out against all the other instruments (so you can be heard in really loud environments). Since the Remo Ambassador is thinner than the Emperor, youll get a slightly brighter overall drum sound with the Ambassador. Whats the difference between Remo Ambassador vs Remo Emperor drumheads? amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; Master the important stuff with thedrum sound FAQ. Tip: Attack is not the only variable that can affect how clearly your drums are heard, and this will become evident as you read on (responsiveness and brightness/warmth are also important factors here well cover these soon). Similarly, if youre worried about the Emperor being a little too warm, get the clear version. They're just dead--no attack to speak ofand it> doesn't help that they're about 4+ years old! Its 100% free, so check it out here to find the best drumheads for your sound. I also have kept the> original front bass head w/logo, but I put that in a closet for possible later> resale value for the set.>> Ron, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message. Youll see that these descriptions can fit with how they sound, and how they behave. >>I don't need the durability of a 2-ply head if>>that's of any import.>>>>From the Evans catalog, the G1/G1 combination gives a "punchy open tone,>lively feel, bright open sustain". All other review and written content is copyright DrumheadAuthority.com. Well, Remo had to name them something, but there is some logic behind the different names here. With other heads, there are other variables that can have a huge influence on sustain and overtones (e.g. amzn_assoc_design = "in_content"; amzn_assoc_title = " "; On the flip side, if youre playing lower-volume styles of music, the Remo Ambassador might be a better choice compared to the Emperor: Due to its single ply construction and thinner overall design, it takes less energy to activate the Ambassador, so you can get a nicer drum sound at lower volumes, without a huge cutting attack. amzn_assoc_linkid = "7a92f7fc8fe5b3f54573aac6de26d871"; ;-), > Todd wrote:>> > After way too many years of bad head choices for my Slingerland Spirit> > series kit.it's time for new heads.> >> > I've never been happy with the tom sounds I've gotten, no matter how> > meticulously I work with the tuning. I like either clear ambassadors or clear Dips, > I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attackand none of> the heads I've used have ever given it to me.>, > Could a kind soul with experience with both heads lend some insight?>, I like the pinstripe route and am not an Evans fan at all. amzn_assoc_search_bar = "true"; If you want the best of both worlds, there are a few heads that fit right in between Remo Ambassador and Emperor heads. This is not a huge difference, but it is noticeable if you put these drumheads side by side. See here for our drum tuning guide for beginners. Search, filter, and compare drumheads Aquarian vs. Evans vs. Remo. amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; --Robert Schuh"There Can be Only One! amzn_assoc_design = "in_content"; amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; extremely hard hitting) to vibrate at their full potential. Currently, I have> Yamaha clear single ply batter heads (coated ambassadors on the> resonant side). The original heads were coated> > ambassadorswhich weren't to my liking either. Responsiveness is especially important for snare drums, because you need your drumhead to be sensitive enough to activate the snare wires with lighter playing. amzn_assoc_title = " "; The overall drum sound were talking about here is the balance (or ratio) of tones that these drumheads produce, when compared against each other. Strat turned me onto Aquarian Response 2's for my toms. > Kits I've played with Pinstripe heads sound _much_ better than my own.> What resonant heads work best with Pinstripes? Free Live Workshop: Danny Carey, Justin Chancellor, Dirk Verbeuren, Ray Luzier & More, Does Drum Wood Really Matter? amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; Responsiveness means sensitivity: How sensitive is a drumhead when you play it lightly. >I don't need the durability of a 2-ply head if, I would recommend Remo PowerStroke 3s, as a single ply will give you moreattack and sensitivity. Compared to the Ambassador, the Emperor has a warmer overall sound. This coating can have a big impact on your drum sound: Because you can use this knowledge to modify the other variables weve covered above. See our full drumhead comparison chart, with everything on one page. You can change the tone of your drums by tuning them higher or lower. All brands and products are copyright or trademarks of their respective owners. amzn_assoc_region = "US"; If you stack two sheets of plastic on top of each other (two plies), they wont be able to vibrate as easily (since theyre rubbing and pushing against each other). amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "drumheadautho-20"; This just theopinion of crazy jazz fucker anyway!

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