harder to overcome the horn's natural tendencies before you can to work over; it doesn't get all woofy at the lower end; it doesn't In our opinion, Yamaha makes the best student saxophones available. It's not as slick and efficient as the more modern years. Or, as I call it, The Giant Killer. It's easily done - it's a free-blowing horn, and if you slap a high-baffled minds over which design I prefer; the separate guards look neat I love these things; they have proper points on And then there was a 25, and a 24. So - it's a great horn, it's well built, it's tough, reliable, glass. All our "certified" used saxophones come with a one-year warranty. when you're holding that much brass out in front of you for three The way it feels in the hands, the way it responds, the way it blows This is a huge improvement on the noisy, imprecise plastic barrel your low notes aren't quite as punchy as they used to be - and a These Vitos were made by Yamaha and are identical to the YAS-23. Ensure you are prepared and ready for both with these tips and tools. On the down side the sling ring is a bit small - and some locking springs. in price - but would it have hurt Yamaha to let the 23 have the However, from a engineering point of a Yamaha", I'm afraid I wouldn't be quite to quick to say it During the reassembly, we replace any pads, corks, springs or felts that are worn. It's functional, well-built The body features drawn toneholes, and for the most part these - but if you're having trouble with the low notes on your 23, it'll The thing I most liked about the 23 was that there's no 'in-house' The G# and C# sit on their own pillars, while the low B And while we're in the area, the 23 doesn't have a (which is always a very, very bad thing). find these days. and sturdy but very clearly looks like it's been punched out of so often I come across a 23 with a few slightly iffy toneholes - sling hooks will jam in it. It's never that good Likewise, the bell key guard horn. experience. better than even chance that the repair can be carried out without be. and nimble. some models were made in Japan but assembled, lacquered and padded Your donation or partnership can help families access high-quality, affordable child care. Unfortunately (for you) I have much more interesting things to do My 25+ year love-affair with my own YTS23 is a matter of public than track down which model is which, where and when it was made large single guard that covered the whole key group. As such But there's a price to pay for that neutrality (aside from having this mod. pillar. What's the state of child care in your state. crook and the mouthpiece. thick sheets of metal by a giant machine rather than lovingly hand Some of that will We have a selection of pre-owned Yamaha student alto saxophones. We can buy them a bit cheaper than Yamahas, so we pass on the savings to you. And there's no adjustable thumb hook - all you get is piece of slightly adjustable plastic thumb hook as standard. The Senate may soon consider a budget reconciliation package, the Inflation Reduction Act, that includes no funding for child care and early learning. key pillars on a 23 where they hadn't been directly impacted. Guidelines This isn't as clear-cut as you might think. They play easily and in tune. who're less experienced at (shall we say) taking care of an instrument pillar isn't robust enough it will bend under the stress. This means that they've been completely disassembled and cleaned. shiny - but it soon goes a sort of milky greyand nickel plate go "Yeeeeeeeehhaaaaaaaa!". Or rather it's capable of being so. you'll see on the rod screws - but these are shoulderless of - here's a snippet of me playing mine a few years ago. it's an easy, non-resistant blow - and no matter how bad a player top F# key. common culprits. simple and unfussy construction. best that can said of them. There's no one horn that will fit everyone, but I've always felt youngsters handling the horns, given that the alto is more likely Quality Practices for Early Care and Education, OngoingTraining and Continuing Education. I like to think of it in terms of the difference between a car that's it a flimsy horn, but this doesn't fit in with my own practical They play easily and in tune. up, and how comfortable it felt in the hands. as to whether this is a good or a bad thing, but ultimately it comes An older horn would usually have all the Ah, the Yamaha YTS23. this will involve some soldering. I've seen it done, and the results are usually pretty poor. packed full of fancy handling-aid electronics and one that's just Well, the example reviewed is quite an old horn - as is my own 23 The model reviewed Well, what can I say? All our "certified" used saxophones come with a one-year warranty. Or so we're told. bit drab. for ebayers and other auctioneers. like the size and shape of it - you don't have to worry about whether horn removes the Bis Bb and G keys from the line-up and has them are widely available at bargain-basement prices. you are, you'll very likely get a note out of it without too much We also have a selection of used Vito student alto saxophones. note by going for the Bis Bb key rather than the A. to allow for a more responsive (and reliable) action. and tidy, but the single guard had a kind of art-deco appeal, and I may have been lucky, but I've never yet had to realign the bell It's a very popular horn, likely to be bought by those and pin affair that was fitted to the earlier 21 series hornsthough that the bell key heights are pretty much bang on out of the box, carved by elves. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, assuming you like that sort and absorbing the impact rather than transmitting it to the body nothing looked quite so bad as a 21's bell key guard after it had point screws. This is fantastic if you're the only horn in a 5 piece rock *Photo for demonstration purposes ONLY. to formally reviewing one, mostly because there's already so much piece on it it'll practically play itselfbut the tone will cut the Bis Bb in among the upper stack - but divides it up between (which instantly rules out my own) - and as these horns tend to Yamaha were later to reintroduce a similar connector on their Custom all I'd have to say on the matter. and how it plays in comparison to a 23 - so if that sort of thing the action has been designed to take these type of springsso hours at a time. Our pre-owned Yamahas are "certified' used instruments. It seems to usually problematic - though a hefty knock to the bell can sometimes It's also quite simple, which makes it reliable. for you. Granted, the plastic thumb rest is a bit on the mean side and it's In any event, you shouldn't ever need to replace them - but if you off in the event of a minor ding. Browse our hundreds of reports, webinars, one-pagers and checklists covering many topics related to child care. at least provided the low C# key cup with a bit of protection. potentially quite a lot of energy. The 23 followed on from the 21, which was in production for about outperform a mediocre tilting table. record - and while I've recently moved on (I now play a TJ It's a bit like having a clockwork iPhone. has a clamp fitted at the bottom bow joint. The keywork can be described as utilitarian. Individual pillars are fitted, and these have generous bases and your thumb has to go up or acrossjust as long as you move it Note too that there's no compound bell key pillar. As you can see, it's quite a neat-looking horn. Actual instrument may vary in appearance. Are You Ready to Open a Child Care Business? is detachable. They are well constructed and hold up over time. of the tarnished nickel will add a little cheeky gravitas. And that, to me, is the mark of a great horn - there's always easy to maintain, light in weight, relatively inexpensive and capable If so, you'll need it's a bit like the Selmer MkVI - it took years before I got around a bit more effort it can also be brought closer to the B key pearlthough So now we come to the feel. do, put stainless springs back on. because it'll allow you to keep on refining that balance down the ButI do see a fair few with bent bell The 23 has a separate G key (mounted on point screws) but retains keys you'll have to cut down or add to the felts as necessary. teardrop touchpieces, but it's at least well-placedthough it'll it's all about finding the balance. this involves some careful bending of the key (ask your repairer in the USthough this ought to mean that standards have been maintained. The nickel plate on the keywork is similarly tough, if perhaps a creaking noise coming from the bottom bow joint. you, whichever comesor goesfirst). octave key mechanism is unusual, and at first glance it seems to trouble. For everyone else, if you want a decent example of a Yamaha YTS23, to have the joint re-glued (wrap PTFE tape around it in the meantime During the reassembly, we replace any pads, corks, spring or felts that are worn. be worth casting a critical eye over the rims of these two toneholes. But what if it's a step in the wrong direction? (they don't have a large head that's wider than the diameter of Become a member to benefit your organization no matter your role in child care. as far as you like without having to ream out the pillars. They feel OK, and that's about the Summer weather, including severe storms and extreme heat can come and go quickly. 'heads' - one for the low C#, the low B, the Bb and the G#. something of a technical oddity, given that this is a contemporary Nothing use it that you realise it's actually really rather slick and responsive. don't be tempted to whip them out and replace them with blued steel Fee Assistance and Respite Care for Military/DoD Families. of thing. cause the glue to crack. hark back to the clumsy vintage mechs of old. good at what it does (and it tends not to whistle quite so much If you've enjoyed this article or found it useful and would And it won't get in the way. It also must be said that I wanted to review a decent-looking one A very worthwhile upgrade is to whip It will make a big difference. So how come it's taken me so long to review it? Yamaha manufactures them in Japan, then "stencils" the name Vito onto the bell. That said, it's not as well designed as the non-tilting table that With is perhaps the biggest cosmetic change over the 21 - which had a I'd leave well alone. Most tenors in terms of design and appearance. Demanding Change: Repairing our Child Care System, State Fact Sheets & Child Care Data Center. This is why some people describe the other than to turn the steering wheeland the other makes you Standards seem to be slipping, and if I were in the I suppose that's fair enough, given the difference the event of, say, a pillar being knocked off. Part Two of what makes the 23 a giant killer. It's only when you an adjustable thumb hook I've used). Note the size and shape of the octave key touchpiece. sculpted spatulas. Well, that's not go 'George Clooney'; keep the body crisp and clean, and the greyness up for in terms of the protection it affords the instrument in transit. Sugru, again, is a popular option for You might not notice it other than to find any energy transmitted up the bell keys will be split three waysand Finally, the horn comes in good old-fashioned box-type case, fitted The action is powered by stainless springs - and normally that's It looks OK when it's like this example - all nice and I can't in all honesty say it's particularly sturdy-looking the horn a bit of a twist (don't go mad though). an insurmountable problem - it just means you have to work a little And when you've found it you'll featured on the MkI 'purple logo' 62 series horns - which had more 10 years from 1970 - and while the 21 was a groundbreaking horn To be fair, the giant machine is obviously very action - and that's cool). fork and pin connector for the side C key (and the Bb below it). wrong with that, except that in the event of a knock to the horn no tilting table for the key keys. Finishing up the keywork is a reasonably decent set of pads, fitted seem to hit the scales at around the 3.4kg mark, which makes the It's a bit flat, however, and you'll get a better And that's is tiresome to put a shine back on. No big deal, you can get this note with ease by simply It means you're one step nearer to tonal nirvanaand discover that the 23 has more to offer than you might have thought, bandyou'll easily compete with a guitar or two, but it won't rounded brass bent at 90 degrees, but I always found it to be very no-one in their right mind can criticise that. to do this). stays have large feet, which will help prevent them being knocked rims, which means these horns are getting the knocks but are standing like to contribute lacquer too. comfortable in use and never had any problems with it (unlike many one does so with no sense of your being involved in the process - or have an adjustable thumb hook fittedthough bear in mind good way to test the integrity of the joint is to grip the horn We can get them for less, so we pass the savings on to you. 23 around .3kg lighter - and in old money that's around half a pound. What's not to like? RAW), the 23 still has a place in my heart. Whether it's by accident or design, the nomenclature for the 2x/2xx to 'run bright' if you let it. subtlebut that's a Dukoff D8 with a Rico Plasticover 5 on it. There's Another nice feature that can be seen in this shot is the simple What it loses in portability it more than makes Doesn't seem to happen. something about it to discover, and it's always good. of far more than the price tag suggestsand decent used examples Later models are fitted with an towards the cost of creating this independent content, please use the button benefit from being angled slightly down towards the B key. On most modern The body is finished in clear epoxy lacquer - and it's damned good extra padding in this area. Our pre-owned Yamahas are "certified" used instruments. lead quite hard lives, a good-looking example is not that easy to It's not Note the rather small screw heads. series horns is a complete mess. with plastic reflectors (resonators). minutesand the results will last the lifetime of the horn (or However, Child Care Aware of America is dedicated to serving our nations military and DoD families. lose its stability at the top - it just gets on with the job in info out there already. brace, but then again it seems to have withstood the test of time. mounted on separate point screws. is careful (and, let's be honest, a little bit lucky) there's a out of the box, and to get the very best out of it you have to have market for a 23 I'd be inclined to follow the 'older is better' the 23 made a pretty good stab at it - and if all else fails there's Whaddya expect? stack rod screw, but the bottom end shares a rod screw with the tone. there's a good chance that the impact energy might find its way This means they have been completely disassembled and cleaned. However, in the case of the 23 Another notable difference from the 21 is that the bell no longer It's not a difficult job - you could do it yourself, Provided your repairer horns. The 23 does none of that. and in most cases it seems to be the low D and C which are the most And as for where any of these If it proves to be an issue We've created an at-home toolkit you can use to help advocate for resources to support the child care system. noisy in use and is likely to remain that way for a very long time. They are well-constructed and hold up over time. In our opinion, Yamaha makes the best student saxophones available. Opinion is divided among players tone as thin, or weedy, or without character and depth. the side Bb key. are very neatly soldered in place. your repair bills slightly cheaper. Sticking with the comfort theme, the top front F key has a plain top stack keys mounted on a single rod (or hinge) screw - a modern to be found in schools etc. And then there's the business of the model numbers. The layout of the keys is spot on. If the design and build of this always the option of tweaking a few keys here and there if needs be down to the clear lacquered finish, and some to the relatively Well, I suppose not uncommon to see 23s on the bench that have been fitted with So perhaps it's more accurate to say that the 23 is resilient Tonewise? This is Part One of what makes the 23 a giant killer - the action round touchpiece. and Bb share one. Both will go round corners, but And so it is with the YTS23. There's They look rather like the heads Let your policymakers know that the child care system needs financial help recovering from COVID-19. view I would say that a well-made non-tilting table mech will comprehensively stick to the ones made in Japanand the older the better. horns were builtwell, it's anybody's guess. the threaded hole in the pillar), they can be screwed into the pillar At its simplest, the 23 is the 'rest of world' version of the European series horns. The trick is to tame that natural edge, but not to smother it - Despite how it sounds, it's not though, because it's now glued on. But if you drive yourself and the horn a little bit harder, being screwed further into the pillar - and because they're shoulderless mech? It comes supplied with a standard Yamaha Sure, I'm biased - I played one G# key cup. Identical in nearly every regard to a Yamaha tenor. Regulation I well remember having to shave off simple but beautifully designed. It'll still come off We have a good selection of pre-owned Yamaha student tenor saxophones. mantra. below. them out and replace them with proper mother-of-pearl ones - and stamp your own sound on it. This latter arrangement tends for decades - but I can still remember the first time I picked one I've heard it said (many times) that the 23's lighter weight makes are nearly always nice and level. have them say "Wow, the action is reeeallly light, isn't it?" - it still delights me, even after all these years. of the old and the new. Oh, the feel. adjusters for the G#/Bis Bb keys), which makes my life easier and Plastic key pearls are fitted. Given This theme is carried on to the top stack, which is a curious mix Then it's lubricated, regulated, and adjusted so that it plays correctly. to seal it up). Don't ask me why, though. 62's non-tilting table when that series moved over to a tilting The action on the 23 is simple 275. There's a large accessory compartment, and separate slots for the It is then lubricated, regulated, and adjusted so that it plays correctly. any loss of lacquer surrounding the job. Report: Operationalizing Equity in Quality Rating and Improvement Systems. It's nothing you need to worry about - I merely point it out as But there are a number of differences between It's also a very light horn, weighing in at 3.1kg. A stencil horn, made for Vito by the Yamaha corporation. be subtle. up to them pretty well - perhaps because the bell rims are deforming as elves do), and keywork problems are seldom an issue with these Read CCAoA's full statement on this issue below. If you can't hand your 23 to an experienced player and Lastly, the bell key bumper felts aren't adjustable - which means vaguely in the direction of the touchpiece, the mech will work. bells knocked out of alignmentbut this might be more to do with You might see the It'll even stand up to a spot of soft soldering in at the crock socket (or neck receiver) and at the bell and give with decent catches. adjusters are fitted to the main stacks (as well as the standard It's also been said that It's also a great deal less Looking for fee assistance or respite care? And just for fun - and just to show you what the ol' 23 is capable that if you want to tweak them to change the opening height of the What this means is that in the event of a knock, Pick up just about any other brand of horn and you're picking with bent bodies and crushed bells. Fortunately it's relatively easy to fix the problem mouthpiece - which is as good a piece as you'll get for the money. hand. matters to you, you'll have to go a-googling. I'll come straight to the point. you can always customise it with a sachet of Sugru is superb. be almost completely neutral. - which means I ought to be seeing quite a few of them on the bench in its day, it's clear that the 23 is a more 'mature' horn both At least on the tenors; the altos seem to suffer rather more from up someone else's concept of tone. down to personal preference. I say nearly always because every a two-point bell brace fitted, though only one end (on the body) There's no midrange 'bloom' - and while I might once have said "You can't go wrong with these days. And then there's the issue of what's a 23 and what's not. to the compound pillar - and with four keys mounted on it, that's it would fit through the hole. then you've not got it set up right (or you just prefer a harder time and effort into it. It'll take about 5 So, the top end of the key pivots on the main upper I particularly You can get what you want out of a 23 - but you've got to put the the two models, which may or may not be confined to the keywork. and spend some time choosing the right mouthpiece, the 23 will sing taken a few knocks. it tweaked. while you're having that done, get a domed Bis Bb key pearl fitted. horns the bell keys are mounted on a single pillar or arm with four It doesn't sound like much but believe me, it makes a difference I'm in two was built in Japan - but later models have been built elsewhere or you can have your repairer do it for you. a bit of material from the bottom of my old BG sling hook before My advice is to let the horn This is a horn that was designed for the student market. thus be more likely to be dissipated harmlessly. (Indonesia, for example - and now China). There's no missing that, even when the going gets frantic. And while we're about it, take a look at the size of the G# touchpiece. body twist very slightlybut you're more likely to hear a faint them, which means they can take up wear in the keywork simply by two pivots. fingering a standard front top F (top F key + A key) and then adding Stay informed, connected, and inspired in an ever-changing ECE landscape. to work at building your own tone) and that's the 23's tendency The The 23 sports separate guards for the low Bb/B and C keys, and this No such problems on the 23 - because it doesn't have a compound

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